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Realistic Solutions to Save the Troubled Voiceover Industry

June 26, 2018 by Dan Friedman

By Dan Friedman and Cat Wityk

Dan Friedman, voice talent, voiceover industryOn Wednesday June 13th, a town hall meeting between the Voiceover Agents Alliance (VOAA), the World-Voices Organization (WOVO) and the Global Voice Acting Academy (GVAA), took place to discuss the state of the voiceover industry. It brought together hundreds of people in our community. While these conversations are important and necessary, the only thing that was truly evident from the discussion is that we as an industry are in trouble. What follows is a brief history of how we got here, followed by a little perspective and some ideas that, at the very least, should help to continue the discussion and at best could be the start of some solutions.

The actor’s union strike of 2000 occurred at a time when the internet simultaneously opened the door to online entrepreneurs everywhere. While an agreement was reached and the strike ended, independent production houses and eventually P2P sites seized on the opportunity to fill the void originally left open by the strike. Eighteen years have gone by and the entire landscape has changed. People no longer record to tape or even go to a studio. Talent are easily and directly accessible. Costs have been reduced but voice talent (and others) have to learn new skills and take more control of their careers.

Many people hiring voice talent these days (and even many voice talent themselves) were too young to remember the union strike, much less be in the workforce yet. Furthermore, computers and digital technology have made it possible for an individual to take on many roles in business and execute them with some level of proficiency, without the need to hire an accountant, photographer, graphic designer, web designer, voice talent or any number of other roles. Because of this, they often have no point of reference to know what a fair rate is or how to negotiate when hiring a professional to take on these roles.

The Role of Digital Technology in the Advertising Industry

In fact, digital technology plays a greater role in this than many may realize. The advertising industry itself appears to be in somewhat of the same boat, as they are losing money, jobs and clients.

In an article from The Atlantic, the data shows that jobs in the ad industry are declining due to “technology’s invasion of the ad sector and the phenomenon of more corporations trying to emulate outside media companies in-house.” The age of affordable digital technology has allowed the average local business owner to pick up a camera and produce their own commercial, or apparently, even go so far as to develop an in-house media department. Additionally, it has enabled tech companies like Facebook and Google to dominate advertising in place of ad agencies.

This article from Forbes Magazine argues that “As advertising became more fragmented and complicated with the digital revolution, a saturated market of agencies began pitching against each other for the same amount of finite work, driving down fees.” Therefore, ad agencies are experiencing a similar plummeting of rates due to greater competition. Naturally, when all of us in voiceover are doing the same, the results are compounded.

Talent, Agents, Coaches … Taking Action

This is a community of amazing people and it will take the each and every member of it to help save this industry now and for the future. I applaud the efforts of everyone who participated in the town hall and all of those who attended. While it is important to lay many of the issues on the table and have an open discussion, we can’t only discuss the issues and not also try to find realistic solutions. We are all turning down jobs that don’t pay fairly, but refusing work isn’t enough. Because, as we all know, someone is going to do those jobs. In some cases they may be desperate to put food on the table, or maybe they simply don’t know any better.

Now, what are we going to do? Here are just a few ideas to consider.

As discussed in the town hall meeting, we should all be educated on what a fair rate is for voiceover work. This includes agents, talent, coaches, producers and talent buyers. The GVAA rate guide and of course the rates set by SAG/AFTRA should be considered the standard. Clients can’t go elsewhere if we’re all agreeing on the same rates.

Talent who choose to work for P2P sites, Fiverr or any organization that actively promotes and encourages buyouts, unlimited usage, and low per spot or per word rates should be eliminated from consideration for agency representation. This is no different than any other non-compete agreement.

Agencies must be more proactive in marketing their talent, including a stronger focus on SEO where they are currently being clobbered by P2P, cheap or discounted VO sites and individual talent. For instance, when searching “voiceover” on Google, only one agency is displayed after 4 pages of primarily P2Ps, companies offering cheap voiceovers and individual talent.

Coaches, education outlets and demo producers must commit to refusing to make professional demos for those who are not ready to work in this business. It’s our responsibility to prevent the flooding of the market of talent who accept lower rates due to a lack of skill.

Talent should include their agents in negotiation as often as possible. This would demonstrate that talent are committed and value their agent’s work. It also serves to keep agents in the game, which is crucial because they are traditionally better negotiators and advocates for talent than they are for themselves. They have more experience and skill when it comes to sticking up for standard rates. They do this for a living after all.

Agencies must demonstrate their value to talent buyers by not only streamlining the entire process from casting to payment (which they already do well), but also by accentuating their roles in casting and other value added propositions. Simultaneously they need to demonstrate their value to the talent they represent by doing their best to spread work out to all talent on their rosters and not just a select few.

Coaches and education outlets must educate new students on the business of voiceover, not just the craft. They should emphasize the importance of not working for free or for low rates, finding rate cards, and understanding and negotiating rates including usage, markets, cycles, lifts, cut downs, etc.

Agencies could consider being more regionally territorial in their marketing to potential talent buyers. Focusing on local businesses and industry also helps the local economy.

Everyone should share the responsibility of educating clients on the value and importance of professional voiceover. As we already know, voiceover is more than just talking. It is a representation of a brand, image and an identity that is just as important to a company or organization as a well designed logo. As industry professionals, we must all work to reposition cheap, unprofessional and/or untrained talent as synonymous with a cheap and unprofessional brand. We then can position our own brands as the opposite of those talent. But in doing so, professional talent must never fail to deliver on the promise to be better communicators and to always provide the very best in customer service.

Filed Under: Sound4VO News, Sound4VO Posts Tagged With: advertising industry, digital technology, Forbes, GVAA, talent agents, The Atlantic, town hall, town hall meeting, union strike, VOAA, voiceover coaches, voiceover industry, voiceover talent, WOVO

A Cautionary Tale About a Certain P2P Site

January 26, 2018 by Dan Friedman

This was originally posted in the Voiceover Pros Facebook Group by voice actor Rick Riley. I am reprinting it here with his permission. In an effort to not promote additional links to the offending P2P company I have changed “.” to “dot” in the web address. I believe it is important that talent and those who hire talent are made aware of issues that hurt our industry. While this is not my story, it is one of many stories that have been made public over the years. It demonstrates a pattern of troubling behavior that people should consider when deciding whether or not to do business with this particular company.

Here is the post:

Right now, Voicesdotcom is an extremely heated subject, and rightfully so. I recently replied to Bob Bergen’s post regarding VDC. With that, I feel I should reveal my involvement with VDC and their practices.

I contacted someone in the industry who was compiling a case against VDC. She asked me to relate my experiences. This is the email I wrote to her with names redacted by (_______) lines.

The first case was in regards to an IVR session I was asked to do. As a rule, that’s not what I do, but I have done a lot of commercial work for this company and they wanted me to be on their phone when people called.

Voicesdotcom contacted me and asked if I would do the job. I quoted and VDC came back a couple days later saying that my rate was too high, and they would look someplace else. When you read the emails below, you will see that VDC was willing to ace me out of a job if they couldn’t have their exorbitant commission. Below is the email I provide the person doing the research.

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Hi ______,

Bullet points for your records:

A Voices.com managed project in which the client wanted me but didn’t have the budget so they contacted me directly. The following is an email exchange with a client who happened to have my contact information.

Hi Rick,

I just wanted to reach out to apologize of the back and forth on this latest ____ phone tree job, my client(the agency) is not making any progress with their client on the budget and at the current rate i will not be making any money on this job.

We talked last time about going to you directly and i mentioned that i felt it was only fair that i stay loyal to Voices, but now i may back track on this if the price changes so that i can make some money. What would be the cost of this project if i dont go through Voices?

To which I replied…

Just out of curiosity, what is Voices charging you?

And they replied…

$425.00

And I replied…

You see, that is a bunch of crap. I told them $250, which is my session minimum. I had a feeling they were charging way beyond what an agent would charge. THIS is why they are getting a bad rap and why they won’t allow communication between the client and the talent. Voice 123 charges a subscription fee just like Voices.com, however Voice 123, once the client and the talent make a connection, steps out of the equation.

And they replied…

Well that settles it then. I will reach out to you directly from now on.

When are you available between today and monday? ____ at voices mentioned tomorrow, is that still the case?

And how would you like to set up payment?

(end of email exchange)

A 70% commission and VDC was willing to let the client go and ace me out of a job because they couldn’t get it!

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NOW, today’s story…

A job booked through VDC that kept getting revisions. I did the second minor revision at a low rate for goodwill towards the client. The latest revision, before I quoted for it, had me calling the client because I wanted to make sure they were getting the benefit of my goodwill. Turns out VDC’s greed did not let me down.

For the original 30 sec spots for a Canadian company I quoted $1,000.

First round of revisions I quoted $500.

Second round of revisions I quoted $100 as a goodwill effort.

When VDC contacted me for a quote on this latest minor revision, before I gave it to them I decided to call the company and find out what they were paying VDC on what I had quoted them.

When I quoted $1,000 for the original spots, VDC charged $1800.

When I quoted $500 for the revisions, VDC charge $795.

When I quoted $100, VDC charged $155.

80% commission, 60% commission and 55% commission respectively to VDC.

THAT is Voicesdotcom in a nutshell!

Now THIS company will be working with me directly as well.

Thanks ______!

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That’s my exchange with the person doing research. Knowledge is key in all aspects of life. Hopefully this knowledge about one person’s experience with VDC will help you make decisions in your own personal endeavors.

Thanks for reading!
Rick

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A Fresh Perspective on the Voices Acquisition of Voicebank: Be The Beer!

August 9, 2017 by Dan Friedman

Voices Acquisition of Voicebank

The Voices acquisition of Voicebank is still reverberating through the VO community. That loud boom you may have heard was the collective gasp from talent agents, managers, casting directors and voice talent around the world. Say what you will about Voices, but one thing is for sure … they certainly know how to stir things up.

What do Voicebank and Wicked Weed Brewing have in common?

For me personally, this is the second acquisition of a company that has occurred in just the last few months that has and probably will have an impact on my family. My wife’s company Wicked Weed Brewing was purchased a few months ago by Anheuser-Busch/InBev. That acquisition definitely stirred things up in the beer community. Over the years, both Voices and AB have undeniably had mixed reviews by those working in their respective industries. Lovers and haters. The vitriol toward both on social media alone is often cringeworthy and yet both have supportive, loyal and dedicated employees, customers and colleagues around the world.

My experience with everyone at Voicebank has always been very positive. They invited me to be a coach for them several years ago, and it has been an addition to my resumé of which I am very proud. Similarly, I know the founders (previous owners) of Wicked Weed to be some of the most kind and generous people I’ve ever had the good fortune to meet. As for Voices, I’ve never been a member. I’ve met Stephanie and a few other employees at various conferences. They’ve always been very nice. I will let the numerous videos and interviews with David C. (founder of Voices) that are floating around the interwebs speak for themselves. You should form your own opinion if you haven’t already.

I don’t know anyone at AB. But so far, from my outsiders perspective, everyone involved seemed to handle the acquisition of Wicked Weed with good intentions, honesty and reasonable transparency. AB appears committed to building the Wicked Weed brand and most importantly, allowing the beer to remain as it is and just … be the beer (and it is some of the best beer you will ever taste). Who knows, maybe that relationship will lead to me voicing a beer campaign for one of their brands someday … hint, hint. 😉

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Be the beer!

My hope is that Voices will conduct themselves with honesty, integrity, transparency, and fairness toward voice modvigil actors (and everyone in the industry). It is, after all, the right thing to do and would go a long way toward improving their image in the community. Everyone in the voiceover industry is likely to feel the impact of this acquisition. Whether you like and work with Voices or not … you absolutely must support your agents, managers and casting directors. Other than yourself, they are your top salespeople. They are the people who advocate for you everyday and also the people who will likely be harmed the most in this transition.

As individuals, entrepreneurs and small businesses, we simply cannot control the forces that are far bigger than any of us. As voice talent, we are the product. We are the beer! Our responsibility is to keep our quality high, remain creative and hopefully, on the cutting edge. We must remain true to our brand and represent the brands for whom we communicate in the most positive ways. We should taste great (ahem … sound great) and be everything we can be to entice people to come back and and drink in more of our sudsy goodness. Be the best voice talent you can be. Be the beer!

Cheers!

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Voiceover In The Gig Economy

March 22, 2017 by Dan Friedman

A colleague of mine recently posted this on social media. “Heard a commercial I did voiceover for on the radio this morning. I haven’t heard it in a couple years, and assumed it just wasn’t running anymore. Cool!”

Cool … but also, NOT COOL!!

Now before getting into the details of why this is not cool, I want to point out that my friend and colleague is not a working voice actor and the commercial she references is one of the only voiceover jobs she has done. I can not blame her for taking the job initially or for not knowing the ins and outs of the business. But, if you are reading this article, there is a pretty good chance that you are interested in voice acting as a career. Therefore, there are some things you should know so that you don’t unknowingly hurt yourself or the industry as a whole.

We live in what is being called a “gig economy.” Voice actors exemplify this economy perfectly. We get hired to do a job, we do the job and then it is on to the next job. Finding the next job is challenging and even if you have an agent, you still have to put in a great deal of time and effort marketing and reaching out to potential new clients on your own. In fact, you will likely spend more time networking, marketing, and searching for new business than you ever will behind the microphone. In an effort to have a sustainable career while doing all this other stuff and not working behind the microphone, voice actors depend on being paid for the usage of their voices, even years after a job has been recorded.

For Radio and TV commercials, VO talent ideally get paid in two ways. A session fee for the time spent during the session (this may be used to offset a studio fee) and for usage based on cycles in which the spot airs (typically 13 weeks.) Every deal is different, but it is best to stay away from any “for broadcast” arrangement that can be used “in perpetuity” or a “buyout.” To have a long and sustainable career, you depend on residuals to help maintain a steady income over the long term.

Remember, when you are chosen to be a voice for a company, you represent that company. You are a reflection of their brand. That has meaning for them and for you. As such, you should be fairly compensated for as long as your voice represents that brand, even years down the road. Something else of which to be aware is that when you represent a brand, it may very well eliminate future possibilities to represent other similar brands. This is a “conflict.” When you do not specify limits on usage, you create a potential lifelong conflict. Thus, eliminating the possibility of working for competing companies.

When you are starting out in the voiceover industry, landing those first jobs can be very exciting. However, it is important to consider the long term ramifications of the work you do. It is cool to hear yourself on TV or radio. But it is not cool to allow your voice to be used, and potentially heard thousands of times by thousands of people over any number of years, and not be fairly compensated.

General rules to live by:

  1. Don’t work for low rates. Know what you are worth. Don’t know what that is? Check out the GVAA Rate Guide as a good starting point. http://www.globalvoiceacademy.com/resources/voice-over-industry-standard-rate-guide/
  2. Don’t do jobs that can be used “in perpetuity” or as a “buyout.” Negotiate usage limits.
  3. If you don’t feel comfortable negotiating with a client, have an agent negotiate the terms for you. Don’t have an agent? This may be a great way to get an agent if you don’t already have one.

This article was featured in The VoiceOver Network’s “The Buzz” magazine. Spring 2017. Issue 9. To get your copy visit: http://www.thevoiceovernetwork.co.uk

Filed Under: Sound4VO News, Sound4VO Posts, Voiceover Tips & Advice

Voiceover – Radio Imaging: Alternative 101.5 Missoula, MT

February 2, 2017 by Dan Friedman

Missoula, MT – February 2, 2017 – New Alternative Rock Station KAMM 101.5 launches today with Sound4VO’s Dan Friedman as the imaging voice. http://alternativemissoula.com/

“I listened to dozens of voices and as soon as I heard your demo the “that’s the one” light went on.” – Angel, Brand Manager KAMM101.5

Radio Imaging is a fun and exciting part of the voiceover world and I am thrilled to be the voice of this new alternative music station. Check out my Alternative Radio Imaging Demo below.

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Voiceover-Introducing the Sound4VO App!

May 20, 2015 by Dan Friedman

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With summer just around the corner, people are gearing up for vacations and some fun in the sun. For the voiceover community that means … well, that we are gearing up for vacations and some fun in the sun. In other words, it will still be business as usual. We may just be auditioning and working from some unusual places.

When voice actors travel (wherever we go) we setup our gear, create a quiet and acceptable sounding environment and do our best to provide the best audio quality possible in sometimes less than ideal conditions. Availability, accessibility and mobility are essential to operating and sustaining our businesses. If you would like to learn more about what gear I use while on the road, check out: What I Took With Me On My Summer Vacation

Hand holding mobile smart phone-Sound4VOAppIn the spirit of mobility, I would like to introduce the Sound4VO mobile app! Sure, you can use it to hear my demos, book me for a voiceover or coaching session and even buy a copy of Sound Advice – Voiceover From an Audio Engineer’s Perspective. But the app also allows you to record audio and send it via email and it includes a stopwatch that you can use to time your scripts. It was important to me that my app provide you with these useful tools. I hope you find them helpful.Sound4VO-Stopwatch

Don’t hesitate to contact me using the Sound4VO mobile app. Please share the app with your industry friends, clients or anyone else who may find it helpful. I look forward to communicating with you more often using this amazing technology.

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Get the Sound4VO app! Just scan the QR code for your device.

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